there's a reason that I don't like Ben.

(Ben's MSN status was "Uighur rioters=terrorist," so I changed my status to "Han Chinese='New Jew'," which is a quote from a comment on NY Times. And the following conversation begins with Ben's response to my status.)


[22:14] † [福] | 爱 †: why would you even say that about your own people
[22:15] BIRD.: hmm u don't get it?
[22:15] BIRD.: hold on let me find this NY times comment
[22:15] † [福] | 爱 †: i get it
[22:15] † [福] | 爱 †: but you're basically calling yourself derogatory term
[22:15] † [福] | 爱 †: if someone else does it let it be
[22:15] † [福] | 爱 †: but why would you
[22:15] BIRD.: wat?
[22:16] BIRD.: Han Chinese are the new Jews, hard working and frugal, focusing on education, and end up having a better economic life. For that, many people resent them.
[22:16] BIRD.: " "
[22:16] BIRD.: i don't see how it's derogatory.
[22:16] BIRD.: you don't get it.
[22:16] † [福] | 爱 †: calling another person a jew isn't really a compliment
[22:17] BIRD.: you have to read things within context
[22:17] BIRD.: since i gave u the context it's really pointless to keep saying it's derogatory
[22:18] † [福] | 爱 †: so you're saying that person wrote that to compliment chinese people
[22:18] BIRD.: wat? is ur world black and white or something?
[22:19] BIRD.: just becuz it's not derogatory doesn't mean a statement becomes a compliment
[22:19] BIRD.: do u seriously need me to explain to you the nature of that quote?
[22:19] BIRD.: the tone
[22:19] BIRD.: the style
[22:19] BIRD.: the purpose
[22:19] BIRD.: seriously. stop 鸡蛋里挑骨头.
[22:20] † [福] | 爱 †: here's the esl student arrogantly looking down upon others again
[22:20] BIRD.: when did i look down "upon" u?
[22:20] † [福] | 爱 †: right now
[22:20] BIRD.: i don't understand why ur giving me this attitude when i have no intention of attacking my nation and my people
[22:21] BIRD.: whatever you believe im sure i totally agree with you i don't understand why you keep challenging my status when it is in fact for Han Chinese
[22:21] † [福] | 爱 †: hmm you simply writing that blatant phrase han chinese = the new jew sure gets you a lot of attention doesnt it
[22:22] BIRD.: wat?
[22:22] BIRD.: look, you have problems
[22:22] BIRD.: and let me tell you what your problem is.
[22:22] BIRD.: you think that no one else besides you has the authority to discuss political issue becuz no one knows better than you
[22:23] BIRD.: and when I start to make a comment
[22:23] † [福] | 爱 †: wait i think your problem is the esl student learned a couple of new vocab words and phrases and decides to think she graduated from columbia school of journalism
[22:23] BIRD.: wat?
[22:23] † [福] | 爱 †: "you don't get it."
[22:24] † [福] | 爱 †: "is your world black and white?"
[22:24] † [福] | 爱 †: arrogant
[22:24] BIRD.: 小人之心度君子之腹.
[22:24] † [福] | 爱 †: yeayeayea
[22:24] BIRD.: i can't discuss anything serious with you
[22:24] † [福] | 爱 †: look
[22:24] † [福] | 爱 †: if you want some serious debate
[22:24] † [福] | 爱 †: make an acct here
[22:24] BIRD.: because it always turn into this stupid childish accusation session
[22:24] † [福] | 爱 †: asiafinest.com.forum
[22:24] † [福] | 爱 †: asiafinest.com/forum
[22:24] † [福] | 爱 †: intelligent unchildish people
[22:24] † [福] | 爱 †: unlike myself
[22:24] † [福] | 爱 †: are there
[22:25] † [福] | 爱 †: let me see how you argue your point with them
[22:25] BIRD.: wow.
[22:25] BIRD.: ur like
[22:25] BIRD.: one of those 愤青 in those chinese forums
[22:26] † [福] | 爱 †: yup i am
[22:26] BIRD.: i hope u grow out of it some day. cuz i did.
[22:26] † [福] | 爱 †: so go to that forum and lets see how other people judge you
[22:26] † [福] | 爱 †: should i even start a topic
[22:26] † [福] | 爱 †: Han Chinese = The New Jew
[22:26] † [福] | 爱 †: topic title
[22:26] † [福] | 爱 †: ?
[22:27] BIRD.: wat
[22:27] BIRD.: oh
[22:27] BIRD.: sure
[22:27] BIRD.: buh remember to put that quote
[22:27] BIRD.: thx
[22:27] † [福] | 爱 †: what quote?
[22:27] † [福] | 爱 †: the quote from nyt?
[22:27] BIRD.: yeah u can't just put a phrase out there becuz ppl like you will take it the "derogatory" way
[22:28] BIRD.: btw u used the term derogatory first not me the esl student
[22:28] BIRD.: and the fact that u kept calling me ESL student
[22:28] BIRD.: suggests arrogance
[22:28] † [福] | 爱 †: well im childish
[22:28] BIRD.: and looking down
[22:28] BIRD.: you are
[22:28] † [福] | 爱 †: im a 愤青
[22:28] BIRD.: you are
[22:28] † [福] | 爱 †: so i guess im allowed to call you an esl student
[22:29] BIRD.: you're never prohibited
[22:29] † [福] | 爱 †: and you cant retaliate because supposedly you grew out of that phase
[22:29] BIRD.: exactly im not retaliating
[22:29] † [福] | 爱 †: and btw
[22:29] † [福] | 爱 †: in ur status box
[22:29] † [福] | 爱 †: you didnt put the entire quote
[22:29] BIRD.: hmm sure.
[22:29] † [福] | 爱 †: just putting han chinese = the new jew is pretty blatant
[22:29] † [福] | 爱 †: so im just gonna put that
[22:29] † [福] | 爱 †: w.o the quote
[22:30] BIRD.: wat?
[22:30] † [福] | 爱 †: and lets see the people's responses
[22:30] BIRD.: this is the type of things the manipulators do
[22:30] BIRD.: like
[22:30] BIRD.: romano
[22:30] BIRD.: who take things out of context and then twist it the other way
[22:30] † [福] | 爱 †: hey you wrote it first
[22:30] BIRD.: im sure ur not that type of perosn
[22:30] BIRD.: sure i can put the whole quote in
[22:30] BIRD.: if ppl like you complain
[22:30] BIRD.: just hold on
[22:31] † [福] | 爱 †: LOL WHO WROTE HAN CHINESE = THE NEW JEW without the entire quote?
[22:31] † [福] | 爱 †: no dont
[22:31] † [福] | 爱 †: leave it
[22:31] † [福] | 爱 †: freedom of speech
[22:31] BIRD.: hmm exactly
[22:31] BIRD.: so i'll put it back
[22:31] † [福] | 爱 †: if u put the entire quote i wouldn't have said anything
[22:31] BIRD.: then why are you so angry?
[22:31] BIRD.: wow
[22:31] † [福] | 爱 †: but just putting that little phase in there is undoubtedly to cause trouble
[22:31] BIRD.: lol you just don't want to lose
[22:31] BIRD.: or admit that you didn't understant
[22:31] † [福] | 爱 †: you lost already lol
[22:31] † [福] | 爱 †: dont worry
[22:31] BIRD.: you're so pathetic im sorry
[22:31] BIRD.: no
[22:31] BIRD.: wait
[22:31] BIRD.: im not sorry
[22:32] BIRD.: you're just plain pathetic
[22:32] BIRD.: there's only one truth
[22:32] BIRD.: and even if other ppl take it your way
[22:32] BIRD.: the wrong way
[22:32] BIRD.: i know what i mean
[22:32] BIRD.: and i know im right
[22:32] † [福] | 爱 †: wow the girl who grew out of 愤青 is calling others pathetic
[22:32] BIRD.: so i don't care what ppl think just by looking at it
[22:32] † [福] | 爱 †: im sure intelligent people wouldn't use those words
[22:32] † [福] | 爱 †: whatever, you probably have an enlarged inferiority complex problem
[22:32] BIRD.: hmmm...your logic has becoming increasingly difficult to understand
[22:33] † [福] | 爱 †: hating yourself, its ok
[22:33] † [福] | 爱 †: g'night
[22:33] BIRD.: nitee
[22:33] Meebo Message: † [福] | 爱 † is offline


I knew this would happen. Ben is the easiest type person to read. I know he likes politics. In fact he is very involved in things like this, but I'm not. He's the type of person who, when involved in a conversation regarding politics with the "normal people," would think other people are talking about crap and don't know anything at all because he's the politic savvy. I knew he never took me seriously when it comes to thing like this. In fact he probably views me as an idiot who only knows bio chem and math and couldn't care less about the world around me. Just like how Chris gets offended when other people try to intrude "his land"--humanities, politics, and history, Ben obviously disdains most of the people other than himself when they try to talk about politics.

When he first sees my status I knew he probably thought something like "wow this nerd does NOT know what she's talking about." What I did not expect is how he starts calling me ESL student, which has absolutely nothing to do with the whole Uighur riot or anything I said. He reminds me of those 愤青, meaning angry youth, that I see in Chinese forums, who always have some kind of angry, often extremist, opinions about the world the society and are never at peace. They always argue and argue and argue. Neither party of the argument ever concedes and neither considers the logical part of each others' argument. They just pick on the "flaws" and use those to continue to argue, argue, and argue more. There's a reason that I don't like Ben.

I just knew how much he'd like Arod next year. So predictable and pathetic.